2012 World Team Trophy: April 19-22 Tokyo, Japan

During WTT, skaters gave special lesson to young skaters.
http://www.sports-tokyo.info/eventblog/2012/04/BM_1335402522558.html

Last year, we all worried about D. Wilson but he and Daisuke made a masterpiece.
Lori? who knows?

Thank you for your wonderful translation, Twind!!

Dai-chan said before that he loved the laundry, so he had a good day doing all those stuff and refresehd himself, I hope!


I'm so sorry not to come back soon... I've been extremely busy since then.........

Anyway you know what happened and already watched hundreds times Dai-chan's WTT performance so far, I guess. So I'll just give you a brief report.

In SP, he landed 4T, beautiful 3A and perfect 3Lz-3T. But I found he had a small wobble in the mid of slst and a bit behind the music partially. (Probably you won't find it unless you've watched his SP thousands times. Hahaha. ) I worried if he could secure Lv4 for his slst until the score came out. Wow! 94p!!

And then the next day.... The FP performance he gave to us was just something trully spacial!! I don't think I need to explain it.

What impressed me most was the atomosphere of the house. Literally all the people there, including the skaters of other teams (though I couldn't see Team Canada from my seat ), congratulated him wholeheartedly, giving passionate standing ovations. The house was filled with pure happiness. I was really lucky to be there.
Is there any other skater who is loved like Dai-chan? Probably there are a few, but not so many I guess.

Thank you very very much, Dai-chan.

Besides Dai-chan, I really enjoyed D/W's FD which I was looking for seeing in WTT. Gorgeous!! I also enjoyed Reynolds' SP, Brian's SP, Jeremy's SP, P/B's FD, Kanako's SP, both Akiko's SP and T/T's SP. (I didn't go to see Ladies FP and Pair FP) Patrick lacked energy a little, probably I expected too much on him. (It was the first time to see him live for me.) And Takahiko............................

Twind wrote:

I like your thought Lil. I agree with what you wrote, and I'm not ashamed of that I'm one of the older aunties love Daisuke, a much younger man because I become just a 14-yeard old fangirl whenever I watch him. I understand many would laugh at the picture of older ladies to be fans of younger celebrities. IMO, once a girl will never stop being a girl so take it or leave it. As for me I have less motherly feeling than some of ladies I talked to.

I'm the same with you, Twind.
I have to say, I'm a member of the aunties club! (I don't mean I belong to some actual club or society. I cheer figure skating alone basically.) But my husband knows well how much I love this sport and Dai-chan. Of course he knows! (How can you hide such a thing from your husband?? )

I remember once ex-JSF figure skating manager said that it's remarlable that Dai-chan has the middle ages fans who know well about art, they are likely also fans of theatre play, classical music, Kabuki etc. He can attract even such people with sophisticated taste.

PS.
Reading this thread, I found some of you are fans of MUSE, too. I always think Dai-chan and MUSE would be perfect blend. Better to start a thead which MUSE song do you want Dai-chan to skate to??
Dai-chan never mentioned MUSE but IIRC Dai-chan answered Linkin Park along with some other Hip Hop groups ( which are not my favorite so I don't remember.) when he was asked about his favorite music before.

Thank you, fosse! Dai-chan looks very in the pic.

hsuhs wrote:

I've never been a fan of Lori Nichol's choreo (I usually find it way too generic: the moment the skater is done, I can't remember any moves from the program I've just seen). But. I loved Caro's both programs this season. Everything about those programs was interesting and unique, imo

I agree with you, hsuhs. It's interesting Lori always chooses unique music only for Caro. I also like Mao's programs choreographed by Lori even though the music choices are not so original.
I'm also curious to see what will happen when Dai-chan skates a super-COP-friendly program.
Though I looooooooooove Blues for Klook, it wasn't a COP-friendly program as someone already pointed out here before. (I think it was one of the reasons why Dai-chan lost in Nice.) Oh wait, but I definitely don't want to see Dai-chan skating a program like Evan's Scheherazade! So I don't want Lori.

Lori Nichol: nooooo!
I never see soul in Lori's choreo. I think she is suitable for not too expressive skaters.
Yes, Caro's programs were beautiful, but I consider Caro a very elegant, not a very expressive skater.
Osan

Thank you, guys.

miyu, your statement about older fans with sophisticated mind does make a sence.

As for Lori, I don't like her choreography.
I agree with you, Osan.
Lori programs seems so cold.
Why it's said that she won't do programs to Patrick? Does he switch to Buttle completely? She seemed so dedicated to Patrick.
As for Blues, I disagree.
If Patrick skated it, I'm sure PCS would be higher.
After all, judges didn't reward Wilson's SP in PCS as well.

Gudrun wrote:

I cannot really imagine him doing the washing :-))) Although it was quite amazing seeing him cook (on one of his dvds) - I never had thought he'd do that :-)))

You should! There are three photos of him doing laundry in his "Soul up. Exhibition" book (pages 46-47). It's also written there that he does laundry every day, cleans his rooms every 2-3- days, etc. Dai has been living by himself for a long time, so I am sure he knows how to manage.

miyu wrote:

What impressed me most was the atomosphere of the house. Literally all the people there, including the skaters of other teams (though I couldn't see Team Canada from my seat ), congratulated him wholeheartedly, giving passionate standing ovations. The house was filled with pure happiness. I was really lucky to be there.
Is there any other skater who is loved like Dai-chan? Probably there are a few, but not so many I guess.

Thank you for your report, miyu! I love that kind of atmosphere in skating competitions. Makes me think of happy endings in Hollywood movies

miyu wrote:

I really enjoyed D/W's FD which I was looking for seeing in WTT. Gorgeous!!

Oh me too! They were amazing

miyu wrote:

(How can you hide such a thing from your husband??)

Based on my own experience, you can't!

miyu wrote:

Though I looooooooooove Blues for Klook, it wasn't a COP-friendly program as someone already pointed out here before.

I think in the end Blues has turned out very well. All those 9s and 10s (!) in the components. Finally high scores for Daisuke's performance / execution and interpretation -- the way those marks should have been all season long, justice prevailed at WTT.

Having said that, I voted for his In the Garden of Souls SP in our poll. I had a good feeling about that program from the beginning, and am now happy Daisuke scored a WR with it.

miyu wrote:

Oh wait, but I definitely don't want to see Dai-chan skating a program like Evan's Scheherazade! So I don't want Lori.

That reminds me: Evan will be skating to Samson and Delilah choreographed by Lori Nichol, next season (if he returns to competition). And I will probably have the ... honor of seeing that masterpiece in Oberstdorf, in September, live.

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Oh guys, I see Lori Nichol isn't exactly popular in this forum

But hey, don't they say the harder the challenge, the sweeter the victory?

Poor Lori is not very popular here in Hungary, in the forums.
I personally do not like Lori, but do not let me choose.

Dai with Lori???? I am not sure. However, in terms with COP friendliness, she may work magic in increasing the score. I heard somewhere that Lori is coaching judges how to score. That explains Chan's unreasonably high PCS.

To be honest , though, I would like to see interesting and innovative choreo rather than being bored by unnecessary transitions and tricks to mark high score.

My personal wish is to see Wilson's long and Tom Dikson's short.

It is true that Dai was not rewarded for his short program very well PCS wise. But it is a problem of judging, not the quality of Willson's choreograph. They (judges) SHOULD CHANGE, NOT WILLSON NOR DAI.

Anyway, I am so sure that Dai will surprise us with yet another masterpieces next year. He is like Toyota, continuous improvement

Go Dai.

[/quote]You should! There are three photos of him doing laundry in his "Soul up. Exhibition" book (pages 46-47). It's also written there that he does laundry every day, cleans his rooms every 2-3- days, etc. Dai has been living by himself for a long time, so I am sure he knows how to manage. [/quote]

Hello let's talk :-)

How funny, I grabbed the book from the book shelf and indeed, you are right, he is doing his laundry :-)))) He looks pretty serious while doing it :-)))

As to which choreographer to choose - it's pretty difficult to say. Perhaps Dai-chan has the feeling or is thinking that it will be difficult to find again something really good done by Camerlengo or that Camerlengo's ideas are limited. Perhaps he really would like to try something totally different again and that another choreographer might do the trick. I'm not too sure about all this. I still think that Dai-chan and Camerlengo are a very good team, they do each other really good. I'd stick with Camerlengo but I'm not Dai-chan ... anyway, not matter what Dai-chan will do, whatever decision he will make, I'll support him 100% and more :-)) I'm sure he'll do something really great again, something that is fun for him, a challenge for him, something that makes him get closer and closer to Sotchi ...

Cheers
Gudrun.

Genki, comparing Dai-chan and Toyota is something :-)))))

Genki wrote:

My personal wish is to see Wilson's long and Tom Dikson's short.

Hmmm.... I like your ideas!

Gudrun wrote:

Genki, comparing Dai-chan and Toyota is something :-)))))

Yes!

Is Salome Brunner still choreographing? That could be an interesting choice, and she could work wonder with Daisuke. But as I said, I have no idea if she is still choreographing.

To be honest, I wish Daisuke has more chances work with new generations of choreo.
They would be able to provide something unique to Daisuke and Daisuke will provide the guarantee of success to them.

hsuhs wrote:

I think in the end Blues has turned out very well. All those 9s and 10s (!) in the components. Finally high scores for Daisuke's performance / execution and interpretation -- the way those marks should have been all season long, justice prevailed at WTT.

You are a good person, hsuhs. I can't trust judges that much. You know, WTT can't be held without Japan's help, so…. (I hope it doesn't sound arrogant.) We'll see.

We should start new threads for 12-13 choreographer and music choice and 12-13 news, shouldn't we?

miyu wrote:

You are a good person, hsuhs.

Daisuke Takahashi Fan Forum is full of good persons!

miyu wrote:

We should start new threads for 12-13 choreographer and music choice and 12-13 news, shouldn't we?

Done!
Welcome:
https://daisuke-takahashi.forumotion.com/t878-2012-2013-season-music-and-programs

Before this thread is left behind, let me say my belated thank you, to let's talk, miyu and Genki for your interesting reports, and simply for being there for him. Great to know you are actually there, now each time I see the video I smile thinking that. (the same way I watch the Nice World.) Your being there is a part of the wonderful outcome. As we all know in Dai-chan's case it's always a collaboration with the audience.

hsuhs wrote:

Daisuke Takahashi Fan Forum is full of good persons!

So that's why I'm so comfortable here.

I don't know. whether we have this video, just in case I give the link here.
It's interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Y40SkQU51s&feature=youtu.be

^Thanks. Watching this video confirms what I already thought, that Dai's LP performance in Nice was not that much different from his WTT performance. Maybe his score at WTT was generous (I don't think so, but some feel that way) but his PC's score in Nice was way to low, the man is a master at what he does and should be getting 9's and 10's.

Thank you for the link, panther!

Shyla wrote:

Watching this video confirms what I already thought, that Dai's LP performance in Nice was not that much different from his WTT performance. Maybe his score at WTT was generous (I don't think so, but some feel that way) but his PC's score in Nice was way to low

I agree. I was in Nice, Daisuke really delivered there in FP. Can't say the same about the 'winner'.

Shyla wrote:

the man is a master at what he does and should be getting 9's and 10's.

My thoughts exactly. If Daisuke's skating isn't worth 9s and 10s, then whose is???

Daisuke skates truly innovative and revolutionary programs, the audiences around the world love them. There's something fundamentally wrong with the judging that doesn't reward that.

Thank you panther, for the link!!

And well said, Shyla and hsuhs.

I always thought that in the GPF and Worlds the only explanation I could find is that the ISU simply has a strong intention to let the Canadian win no matter what. The way the last three PCS for CH, PE and IN in both don't make sense at all .

I don't want to think that way but I suspect that the WTT scoring is just to pacify those voices of fury to get away with other more major competitions. I have to watch the next season very carefullly.

Twind wrote:

I don't want to think that way but I suspect that the WTT scoring is just to pacify those voices of fury to get away with other more major competitions. I have to watch the next season very carefullly.

If you are right, then I am even more mad. But on the other hand Chan had worse skatings in his career than he had at WTT, but still he got higher scores than at WTT. Who knows maybe the booing in Nice got heard? They can't ignore such a PR disaster forever. Yeah, we have to wait for the next season to get the answer.

I don't know if it has been here. But I find this after WTT Team Japan party really enjoyable! :
http://i43.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0702/ee/0a69b6d0a530a86169f9ad6522e99eee.gif
http://i40.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0702/d0/68342fec8bed64a02f8af3a2dd6877d0.gif

Thanks for the link, let's talk.
The first one I've never seen before, funny they must have been broadcasted at the same time, mmm~.
I wonder what Dai was saying (or shouting), and I feel a little pity for Chris. He looks a bit uncomfortable sitting on Tatami because of his injury.
Wonderful memories. I hope we'll have the same one this season, too.