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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 8:06 pm

Thank you, fosse, for your information.

The video was taken in Yokohama, so I'm very happy to be able to see him practicing Moonlight and Stroll for PIW. cheers cheers cheers

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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 9:38 pm

Hi masy~
It's well made video, isn't it?
But air time in CNN is still uncertain, yup, still comming soon situation.
From twitter, they have taken more shots after yokohama so need time to edit for the program.
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 10:03 pm

Thank you fosse. Nice video and great article. Dai speaking English at the beginning
of the video is so cute. I laughed about the comment Dai made about the other skaters
getting more applause than him, don't worry Dai that rarely happens.

Dai is just full of Gorgeousness! Love Dog!
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 10:12 pm

Fosse, the show just aired at 6 PM CET, as scheduled!
It will repeat tonight at 11 PM CET and several other times during the week.

CNN as it on Youtube now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T2WP_OHBsCk#!
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 10:24 pm

Thank you fosse! cheers
masy wrote:
The video was taken in Yokohama, so I'm very happy to be able to see him practicing Moonlight and Stroll for PIW.
Me too! sunny

Daisuke, you don't need any special costumes, when you stand on the ice, you are soooo big and always gorgeous! Gorgeousness is something that can be described by showing you! flower

ostile17 wrote:
CNN as it on Youtube now:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=T2WP_OHBsCk#!
Thanks ostile, unfortunately for me it says "The uploader has not made this video available in your country." Sad





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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 10:49 pm

ilica wrote:

Thanks ostile, unfortunately for me it says "The uploader has not made this video available in your country." Sad

Have you been able to watch it on their website, at least?


The bits from "The Stroll" were absolutely great! Other than that, I am a bit disappointed with this feature, but I guess I've been spoiled by Japanese great programs! Wink
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 11:02 pm

Darn I can't watch either. I wonder why they are blocking it?
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ostile17 wrote:
Have you been able to watch it on their website, at least?
Silly me, I thought they already uploaded the entire program. Rolling Eyes

Yes, I was able to watch this one. Thank you for your concern, ostile I love you !

Here is another YT link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaNSBBINyyQ

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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyWed May 15, 2013 11:23 pm

I am silly too ilica. I thought the same as you. Two silly rascals. LOL Wink
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Shyla wrote:
Two silly rascals. LOL Wink
lol!
Ostile says it's going to be repeated at 11 PM CET (5 PM EST) does anyone know if we can watch it somewhere online?
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ilica wrote:
ostile17 wrote:
Have you been able to watch it on their website, at least?
Silly me, I thought they already uploaded the entire program. Rolling Eyes

Yes, I was able to watch this one. Thank you for your concern, ostile I love you !

Here is another YT link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaNSBBINyyQ


You're welcome, Ilica.

But that is the whole program!
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 12:40 am

What? Shocked

Laughing

Now I'm understanding (and sharing) your disappointment ostile...
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ilica wrote:
What? Shocked

Laughing

Now I'm understanding (and sharing) your disappointment ostile...

By watching previous features on their website, I already knew it would be this short. Still, I thought they could have done a better job!
But you know me, I'm always complaining... Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 1:04 am

Ostille and Fosse,
Thank you for links. I enjoyed them so much. Very Happy

BTW, I found out that most comments on CNN pages are negative Evil or Very Mad
" What is he doing in the predominantly women's sports?" " Japanese are more pathetic than Chinese." Is this a sports?" ETC.

Guys, they are so bad. affraid

Will you please go to Fosse's link and leave positive comments please? The more, the better.
I just asked one person why we Japanese are so pathetic. Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 1:38 am

Thank you all for info and links: hearing Dai speaking in English with his warm voice and accent....... drunken

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But that is the whole program!

Really?? I too was thinking the video was just a small footage of entire interview. What a pity Sad

Now I understand ostile's disappointment: Dai deserves more and more attention and time : maybe 1hour...and it's not enough for me Very Happy Really greedy about him I love you

Genki, I tried to register using my usual e-mail address (as I have no twitter or fb) to leave a spicy comment against those stupid guys, but CNN website consider my e-mail "invalid" and do not accept me No No Clearly, those stupid people do not know anything about ice-skating and the video does not show how Dai is great in sport and in life. From this point of view, I quite agree with ostile: CNN should have done a better job. Ostile, you are not " complaining": you simply stated the truth. flower

Dai, don't worry about short arms/legs/body. OK, you are not tall, but when you dance/float on ice, you are a giant. cheers cheers
And you are "gourgeousness" in flesh drunken We will always support and love you cheers I love you I love you






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ilica wrote:
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Have you been able to watch it on their website, at least?
Silly me, I thought they already uploaded the entire program. Rolling Eyes

Yes, I was able to watch this one. Thank you for your concern, ostile I love you !

Here is another YT link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaNSBBINyyQ


You're welcome, Ilica.

But that is the whole program!

So that was the whole program. No need now for me to hunt down when it will
air in my part of the world. lol

I thought we would see the interviewer asking Dai the questions. He is answering questions but
we do not see or hear who is asking them. For all we know they could have handed Dai a script
and he answered the questions while being filmed.

The accompanying article is very good though. It always is a treat to see and hear Dai speak.
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 2:55 am

Genki wrote:
Ostille and Fosse,
Thank you for links. I enjoyed them so much. Very Happy

BTW, I found out that most comments on CNN pages are negative Evil or Very Mad
" What is he doing in the predominantly women's sports?" " Japanese are more pathetic than Chinese." Is this a sports?" ETC.

Guys, they are so bad. affraid

Will you please go to Fosse's link and leave positive comments please? The more, the better.
I just asked one person why we Japanese are so pathetic. Rolling Eyes

I managed to reply to a few of those, but only 'cuz you asked me. The comments are so stupid that they are not even worth replying to!
I can't see your post though!
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 8:30 am

Thank you Genki, for the translation. cheers

And thank you, ostile and fosse (sorry if I miss anyone else), for all the information and links. bounce

And thank you for all the well wishes for me. I love you I love you

I enjoyed the CNN clip with a bit of PIW, and enjoyed the article, which had more of his words. I wish they showed more of his gorgeous step in the film though. Wink

PATTINA wrote:

It's quite new for me the info on his 10 days disappearance from rehab...sure it was a very hard and painful time for Dai. Those images of Dai on the floor crying in the towel....so painful for me to see after all time passed, hardly imagine how physically and mentally painful it was for him at time Crying or Very sad

PATTINA, and for whoever interested, I thought I could share this. ↓ it was pretty much a dated one, but it's an article from Daisuke's own book, "200 Days" published after the Vancouver. The book consists of small chapters of his essays and lots of pictures. ( drunken ) It's not a whole account of his whereabouts of entire 10 days of course, but it's his summing it up of the event with his own words, what he would share in 2010.

I'll put it in the next entry.


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During my Runaway, the Truth is. . .

From the end of 2008 till February 2009 was the hardest time after the surgery of my knee injury. I never could imagine getting a medal in the Olympics a year after that.

At that time, I had bad situations piled up all at once not only with my injury but also with my private matter, in relationships as well. I was totally drained.

My mental dependency grew strong. While knowing that I couldn’t trust, I still got hooked with people or things and then my anxiety and frustration grew even stronger. Feeling empty, I was crying alone in my room every day for a month. My skin became terribly rough. I was falling apart.

To go to the rehab, I rented an apartment near the hospital in Kyoto, going back and forth between that and the hospital daily. One day in February on the way back from the tanning parlor I went from time to time, I just didn’t feel like going back to the apartment, and I just got on the Shinkansen bullet train.

The destination was Tokyo. I went to Shinjuku with no plan. I had nothing prepared for going out overnight, so I got some clothes. I had no reservation with any place to stay, so in Shinjuku, I asked around “Do you have any vacancy today?”

It was a peak time of school/college entrance exam season, so many of them were full. Some were not happy to have a walk-in and refused to get me a room. Finally, I got a room in a small business hotel.

I shut down for all the contacts, with the hospital for my rehab or people around me. I did not answer any calls. For about three days, I kept shopping wandering alone around Isetan or Marui Department stores in Shinjuku.

I bought quite a few clothes but I never put on those I bought at that time. I was forcing myself to shop in desperation buying them without wanting them very much, so after all I don’t really like them and they aren’t good for coordinating with anything. They had no lasting value. Anyway, I probably might as well avoid wearing the clothes bought in such a frame of mind.

I was really going nuts. Until around June last year (2009) I was full of anxiety and emptiness, and I don’t recall any moment I got relaxed. You had it hard, didn’t you? If you hang in there a little longer, something good may happen even to a guy like you. I want to say this to me of those days.

Once you feel anxious and in vain, your dependency grows and you can get caught up in a downward spiral, but now I’m clear from that strange emotional dependency, and I feel very much easier. Now I don’t hate being alone and staying home alone is just fine.

These days I don’t get invited much (lol) but I don’t go out much even I get asked. Now it grows to be more of a pain to go out. I could simply think, “OK, let’s try hard tomorrow again.” I guess when you have a sense of fulfillment, having something to do, having somewhere you belong to, you probably wouldn’t mind being all by yourself.

But I don’t think at all like, “Oh, I did overcome it well. It was not real me who ran away, I can’t believe I did”. It was nothing but I who ran away. That is my weakness and today I still think it was just like me. Daisuke, You would do such a thing. You still probably will.

That’s me.

(End of the article)
page 75-76
Daisuke Takahashi Official Book
"200 Days, the fight up to the Vancouver"

Sorry for any mistakes, for what I couldn't fully put what he meant into the right words. Mad


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WOW thank you Twind. Dai was in such a dark place feeling hopeless so he ran.
He is brave to write about that sad period in his life, he really has a beautiful soul.
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 9:38 am

Thank you Twind so much!

............... Crying or Very sad

Somehow this episode makes him even dearer to me...
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PostSubject: Re: News & Topics 2012/13   News & Topics 2012/13 - Page 16 EmptyThu May 16, 2013 11:11 am

Thank you, Twind
You did a really good job I love you . For me, it’s very difficult to translate what Daisuke said Rolling Eyes .
His words, he always speaks more than the actual words, full of between the lines like his skating, I say.

I like that “200 days”, full of lovely pictures. I love you
That escape part, so heart breaking, makes me feel how he loves figure skating... and happy to know he came back to Utako-sensei’s home, it means something, right?

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Twind, really really thank you: this is a precious gift for me.

You wrote:

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Sorry for any mistakes, for what I couldn't fully put what he meant into the right words. Mad


Of course, I do not know the original Japanese version, but your translation is quite good, the words you use convey deep feelings. Believe me, in the end I was crying Sad I could not help sobbing Crying or Very sad

As Shyla wrote, how brave Dai was to speak freely and without shame of his nightmare days and braver to find something positive even in the darskest hours.

No matter how next season will end, because he is so dear to my heart and each day I learn something that makes him ever dearer. I love you

I open my pics folder now, because I need Dai's gorgeous smile drunken to dry my tears away.

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Thank you Twind !!!

And now, can I scold you? Laughing I'm so spoiled by your beautiful translations of Dai that I get mad at CNN's sloppy work! They translated "hanayakasa" with "gorgeousness"?
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flower Dai on TV flower ~~ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=exqDPmC6qn4

He looks great! So relaxed and cute! drunken


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