Skate America 2008

1A Number of posts : 143 Registration date : 2007-12-09

FIRST RESULTS

MEN SHORT PROGRAMS : Lysacek leads Weir even with 1 point deduction...Kosuka not far!

1 Evan LYSACEK USA 81.30 44.10 38.20 7.70 7.35 7.85 7.60 7.70 1.00 #9
2 Johnny WEIR USA 80.55 42.50 38.05 7.75 7.35 7.60 7.60 7.75 0.00 #10
3 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 80.10 44.70 35.40 7.20 6.90 7.05 7.05 7.20 0.00 #6
4 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 67.18 37.08 30.10 6.20 5.65 6.05 6.10 6.10 0.00 #7
5 Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE 64.40 35.40 29.00 5.90 5.65 5.70 5.85 5.90 0.00 #5
6 Shawn SAWYER CAN 64.14 33.14 31.00 6.40 6.15 6.10 6.05 6.30 0.00 #3
7 Alexander USPENSKI RUS 59.63 30.58 29.05 5.90 5.50 5.75 5.95 5.95 0.00 #4
8 Adam RIPPON USA 59.60 29.90 30.70 6.35 5.90 6.15 6.20 6.10 1.00 #8
9 Igor MACYPURA SVK 54.58 27.98 27.60 5.75 5.20 5.50 5.55 5.60 1.00 #2
10 Ian MARTINEZ CAN 50.68 25.28 26.40 5.40 5.00 5.35 5.10 5.55 1.00 #1

PAIRS SHORT PROGRAMS: SURPRISE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1 Maria MUKHORTOVA / Maxim TRANKOV RUS 66.32 37.40 28.92 7.30 7.05 7.40 7.15 7.25 0.00 #7
2 Aliona SAVCHENKO / Robin SZOLKOWY GER 64.08 34.16 29.92 7.65 7.25 7.50 7.50 7.50 0.00 #8
3 Keauna McLAUGHLIN / Rockne BRUBAKER USA 57.02 30.54 27.48 7.05 6.60 6.70 7.10 6.90 1.00 #6
4 Meagan DUHAMEL / Craig BUNTIN CAN 54.26 31.06 23.20 5.90 5.30 6.05 5.85 5.90 0.00 #2
5 Rena INOUE / John BALDWIN USA 50.00 26.96 24.04 6.10 5.80 6.00 6.05 6.10 1.00 #5
6 Caitlin YANKOWSKAS / John COUGHLIN USA 48.40 29.16 20.24 5.20 4.80 5.05 5.25 5.00 1.00 #1
7 Yue ZHANG / Lei WANG CHN 44.60 25.36 20.24 5.45 4.90 5.00 5.10 4.85 1.00 #4
8 Adeline CANAC / Maximin COIA FRA 44.00 25.16 19.84 5.00 4.90 4.95 5.05 4.90 1.00 #3

COMPULSARY DANCE: Viennese Waltz

1 Isabelle DELOBEL / Olivier SCHOENFELDER FRA 38.49 19.50 18.99 7.55 7.40 7.80 7.75 0.00 #9
2 Tanith BELBIN / Benjamin AGOSTO USA 37.63 19.10 18.53 7.40 7.20 7.50 7.65 0.00 #8
3 Sinead KERR / John KERR GBR 34.37 17.44 16.93 6.85 6.55 6.85 6.90 0.00 #7
4 Pernelle CARRON / Mathieu JOST FRA 32.26 16.74 15.52 6.35 5.95 6.20 6.40 0.00 #5
5 Emily SAMUELSON / Evan BATES USA 31.81 16.24 15.57 6.30 6.05 6.30 6.30 0.00 #6
6 Katherine COPELY / Deividas STAGNIUNAS LTU 29.78 15.30 14.48 5.90 5.60 5.80 5.90 0.00 #4
7 Ekaterina RUBLEVA / Ivan SHEFER RUS 28.41 14.64 13.77 5.60 5.25 5.60 5.65 0.00 #2
8 Jane SUMMERSETT / Todd GILLES USA 27.50 14.86 12.64 5.20 4.95 5.10 4.95 0.00 #1
9 Allie HANN-MCCURDY / Michael CORENO CAN 25.74 13.64 12.10 5.00 4.60 4.90 4.90 0.00 #3

1A Number of posts : 143 Registration date : 2007-12-09

Lysacek: Bolero short program
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nqoQKSvlio0
Weir: sur les ailes du vent
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=uXPCYunO_ec
Kosuka:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=evi0Zb1g4T0

2A Number of posts : 703 Registration date : 2007-08-20

Thanks for results and links, anne-marie!

WOW! Lysacek, Weir and Kozuka had great scores! Very Happy

We have to wait the FP, because we have less only 1,20 points from first to third!

I watched the programs, but I did't understand Lysacek's deduction... he didn't fall... can someone explain it? Question

Evan's steps lookvery difficult, but I don't like very much the way he moves his arms...
Johnny's programs is very elegant, but there's nothing new... except the last spins with laybach spin!

Congratulations to Takahiko! I hope he can keep the place also after FP! He was so happy when he saw the result! Very Happy

Subject: Re: Skate America 2008 Sat Oct 25, 2008 5:09 pm

glorydave wrote:: I watched the programs, but I did't understand Lysacek's deduction... he didn't fall... can someone explain it?

glorydave, here's a quote from an article posted on icenetwork:

"The only fluky bit was a one-point deduction for only waiting three seconds at the beginning of his program instead of four to begin his choreography, causing his program to run over the 2:50-second limit".

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20081025&content_id=53985&vkey=ice_news

Quote :: Congratulations to Takahiko! I hope he can keep the place also after FP! He was so happy when he saw the result!

I, too, am very glad for Takahiko Very Happy

Team Japan has been doing very well!

2A Number of posts : 703 Registration date : 2007-08-20

Thank you hsuhs!
Now I understand! Idea

2A Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2007-11-10

I think the 3 men that are at the top now will definitely be the podium. It's just a question of what order. Either way, I think that this will be a great competition for Takahiko. Unless he has a complete and utter meltdown, he'll be on the podium. I honestly think he has a shot at winning but a medal of any color would be so wonderful. He's beginning to assert himself as a potential contender.

I liked Takahiko's program the best out of all the men. Evan and Johnny were just ok to me. Johnny is doing this new catchfoot layback and it doesn't look all that great. A non-catchfoot layback would look so much better. Evan's program isn't all that bad despite Bolero being a kind of annoying piece of music. His skating is a bit smoother than before though.

Notice that Evan has abandoned the quad-triple in the short. With the new negative GOEs, that's a smart move. A lot of the men were hit hard by the new -GOEs on the triple axel so the scores look lower than I'm used to seeing for a men's competition.

1A Number of posts : 143 Registration date : 2007-12-09

For me, the Bolero is not a kind of style for Lysacek : I would see more Daisuke and especially Lambiel on this kind of music. Lysacek skated it as he skated Carmen. It was not a "bolero" which is a sensuel dance, a rowdy dance. But he has energy, strong jumps, great spead and flow.
I especially like the unusual Weir steps...and his catchfoot layback spin.
Takahiko was wonderful. And he skated in the mood of his music. He has a great future!
You can read the comments here
http://www.sportcentric.com/vsite/vcontent/content/transnews/0,10869,4844-128590-19728-18885-291008-3787-4771-layout160-129898-news-item,00.html

Subject: Re: Skate America 2008 Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:14 am

swandie wrote:: Notice that Evan has abandoned the quad-triple in the short. With the new negative GOEs, that's a smart move. A lot of the men were hit hard by the new -GOEs on the triple axel so the scores look lower than I'm used to seeing for a men's competition.

swandie, Tarasova said during the broadcast that she'd advised Evan to do so in the beginning of GP. According to her, he'll add a quad to the SP later in the season, 'because he's a fighter, he just has to'. She's very fond of her new pupil.

2A Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2007-11-10

Ah, I see. Thanks hsuhs! I guess once he gets it consistent, he'll put it back in.

Subject: Re: Skate America 2008 Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:32 am

Oh wow, Takahiko Kozuka is the new winner of SA!

Great job! sunny

2A Number of posts : 564 Registration date : 2007-11-10

I'm so excited for Takahiko! It was unbelievable! I thought Evan had him but another jump in addition to the quad must have been downgraded. It's the fourth year in a row that a Japanese man has won Skate America!

If he medals at his next event, he'll be on his way to the final. Evan has to win Skate Canada or his chances of going to the final go down. Johnny should be fine unless he ends up 3rd at NHK then it might come down to a tie breaker.

Subject: Re: Skate America 2008 Sun Oct 26, 2008 2:59 pm

Thank you for the results, anne-marie!! Very Happy

Here is Men's result of Free skating.

Skate America 2008
http://www.isufs.org/events/fsevent00010982.htm

MEN FREE SKATING

1 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 146.08 75.88 71.20 7.45 6.85 7.20 7.15 6.95 1.00 #8
2 Johnny WEIR USA 144.65 69.75 74.90 7.60 7.20 7.45 7.65 7.55 0.00 #9
3 Evan LYSACEK USA 141.91 66.61 76.30 7.70 7.35 7.75 7.55 7.80 1.00 #10
4 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 137.71 73.51 64.20 6.55 6.15 6.50 6.55 6.35 0.00 #7
5 Shawn SAWYER CAN 135.84 69.14 66.70 6.60 6.60 6.75 6.60 6.80 0.00 #5
6 Alexander USPENSKI RUS 118.18 61.58 57.60 5.95 5.60 5.70 5.85 5.70 1.00 #4
7 Adam RIPPON USA 115.22 55.72 60.50 6.20 5.75 6.20 6.15 5.95 1.00 #3
8 Igor MACYPURA SVK 115.03 61.03 54.00 5.65 5.25 5.45 5.45 5.20 0.00 #2

Men's SA Result

1 Takahiko KOZUKA JPN 226.18 3 1
2 Johnny WEIR USA 225.20 2 2
3 Evan LYSACEK USA 223.21 1 3
4 Kevin REYNOLDS CAN 204.89 4 4
5 Shawn SAWYER CAN 199.98 6 5
6 Alexander USPENSKI RUS 177.81 7 6
7 Adrian SCHULTHEISS SWE 177.26 5 9
8 Adam RIPPON USA 174.82 8 7
9 Igor MACYPURA SVK 169.61 9 8
10 Ian MARTINEZ CAN 155.18 10 10

Congratulations, Takahiko!! cheers

He's a big surprise winner at SA and I thought Evan or Johnny must be won the prize. Well done, Takahiko!! He did 3A+3T(13 point!) and tried to do 4T! Very Happy

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GO DAISUKE!!

2A Number of posts : 703 Registration date : 2007-08-20

Congratulations Takahiko! Well done! Very Happy

Here you can see free programs' videos.
Takahiko Kozuka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8qjPFVn1hA
Johnny Weir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anguAOXvcrU
Evan Lysacek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-EGBiY3Wwo

They all tried 4T but all of them were downgraded... Congratulations to Kevin Reynold who did 4T (-1.60 GOE) and 4S (+1 GOE)!

I think Lysacek can do well next week at Skate Canada. I think only Patrick Chan can be a problem for him...
Maybe Joubert is now a bit worried about TEB with Kozuka! Razz

1A Number of posts : 143 Registration date : 2007-12-09

It was really surprising! because the Weir and Lysacek free programs were beautifully choregraphied. I do not see choregraphy in Kozuka free program. His short is better and well in the style of the music... But he is young, talentuous, and he will improve, I am sure.
Lysacek: Bolero short program
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=nqoQKSvlio0
Weir: sur les ailes du vent
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=uXPCYunO_ec
Kosuka:
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=evi0Zb1g4T0

1A Number of posts : 143 Registration date : 2007-12-09

1A Number of posts : 143 Registration date : 2007-12-09

Original dance
Delobel/Schonfelder (special and funny)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=WTf8l-yqWDw
Belbin/ Agosto (elegant and glamour)
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=BUsGM-1kEpE

Ladies short program
YU NA KIM
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjxnjqZJqQ
Miki ANDo
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=bVADB5jOSUY

4F Number of posts : 2317 Registration date : 2007-06-18

Thank you for all the informaiton!!

Congratulations to Takahiko, Yu-na and other medalists!! cheers

I was really surprised and glad to see Takahiko's big improvement Exclamation

in capturing the music (especially in SP) as well as his win. Very Happy

He wasn't good at expressing the music before even though he had a great skating skill. I think he still needs to improve his upper body movements (especially arms). Cool

Considering it was just the beginning of the season Evan and Johnny were good.
Johnny was very Johnny as always. Razz

I liked his costumes.
Evan's new choreographys looked a bit monotone to me, especially Bolero. It might be a stereotyped interpretation of the music but Bolero should start calm and rise in crescendo toward its climax. Of course he will improve. Very Happy

Anyway his costumes were spectacular!! Razz

Kevin Reynolds made a great improvement!! I read TT choreographed his programs. So it's something called "Tarasova magic"?! Wink

Yu-na was gorgeous. Cool

At this moment I prefer her SP to FP. I really liked Yukari's Giselle. I love you

Miki looked in good shape compared with last year though she finished third. Very Happy

I haven't seen other girls performances yet!

Subject: Re: Skate America 2008 Mon Oct 27, 2008 3:35 pm

While I was watching Takahiko skating his SP and LP, I thought: "Who does he remind me of?" And, surprisingly, the answer was - nobody. I think (and I hope) he's on his way of turning into an interesting and unique skater.

I'm happy for Miki and her bronze: she skated the best she could, and she was very concentrated during the LP. I'm sure she will improve as the season develops.

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